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How to compile and build Imprudence in Mageia

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ImpDev Meetups/2012-05-16

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== Summary ==

ImpDev Meetup for May 16, 2012.

* No summary is yet available. Please edit this page to add one.

== [http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/w/index.php?title=Kokua-dev_inworld_meetup_agenda&oldid=3888#Wednesday.2C_May_16.2C_2012.2C_20:00_UTC Agenda Items] ==

* Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion
* Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion

== Transcript ==

{| class="transcript"
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|heya
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|hi boroondas
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|ahoy :)
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|oh hey mccabe
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|hi McCabe!
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|hellp mccabe
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:06]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|hyi mccabe
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:07]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|how's it going? :)
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:07]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|viscously
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:08]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|cant wait until kokua is more useable.
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:08]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|ZATZAi will be here shortly, he said in jabber.
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:09]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|:)
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:09]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|I jest got through a build with armins grid manger vis Firestrom merged in
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:09]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|hope he's finally gotten his computer working again
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:09]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|'vis'?
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:10]
| colspan="2" class="action"|Justin Clark-Casey gueses via
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:10]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|with
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:10]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|via
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:10]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|by way of
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|armin's grid manager got first into FS and you got it from there?
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|yes
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|per his suggestion
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|ic
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|armin
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:11]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|this is a wierd model of development, lots of diferent viewers sharing patches around
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:12]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|indeed
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:12]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Eho
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:12]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|aloha
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:12]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|hi zatzai
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:12]
| colspan="2" class="action"|McCabe Maxsted waves Ahoy zatzai!
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:13]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|hi zatzai
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:13]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Sorry to be so here and there of late folks, no excuses, RL is just interfering here and there
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:13]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Please continue
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:14]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|np, we've just begun. (I think. I was late, too.)
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:15]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|So ... we have some topics on the agenda, I see.
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:15]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/wiki/Kokua-dev_inworld_meetup_agenda#Wednesday.2C_May_16.2C_2012.2C_20:00_UTC
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[13:15]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|hi ZATZAi
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:15]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|1st one: "Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion "
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:16]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|um ... open discussion won't work if nobody says anything ...
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:16]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|is there a newer version then "Kokua 3.3.1 Experimental (Apr 18 2012 22:11:42)" ?
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:17]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|sounds good to me
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:17]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|depends on the platform, I think, RiRa
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:17]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|windows
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:17]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/w/index.php?title=Kokua:Release_Notes/3.3.1_Alpha
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:17]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|May 13
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:18]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|but not much was added
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:18]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|go beta without a mac build? Unfortunately I'm not currently in a position to do that myself
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:18]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|would be nice to see git number in about :O
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:18]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|I can try a mac build
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:18]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|cool
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:19]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|good
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:19]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|kentron has done a couple
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:19]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|but on hackintosh
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:20]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|RiRa, for Kokua, we use mercurial, not git. But yeah, having the revision hash in the version info would be cool. Hasn't Wolfpup once made some changes to make that possible?
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:20]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|(In the SL viewer, that is.)
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:20]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|idk
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:21]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|all for it if there is a procedure
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:22]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|otherwise going beta sounds cool
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:23]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|though on a peripheral issue I hear that outfits don't work properly with opensim in the latest ll viewers
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:23]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|not sure of the version, needs to be addressed in oepnsim
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:24]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|with beta the dos console keeps hidden ?
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:25]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Hmm
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:25]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Isn't that a preference setting, anyway?
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:25]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|it still openens on my version every time
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:25]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|If it is a pref setting the default has it show
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:25]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Prob should be default to not show for a beta
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Since a beta is supposed to be feature frozen right?
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|try to find that option...
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|depends on your definition of beta :)
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|I dont think you feature freeze until RC
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Depends on the company policy, true
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:26]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|I'm just used to M$ way of doing it
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:27]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|i cant find it.. :O
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:27]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Ok found the setting
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:27]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|I'm on the SL viewer right now, there I think the option is menu "Develop" > "Console Window on next Run"
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:28]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|ohh console window on next run ?
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:28]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Enable the Develop Menu via Advanced Show Develop Menu then what B said
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:28]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|whoops.
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:28]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|ok.
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:29]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|nicky: were you planning on making an announcement in places like the osgrid forums as well? Nebadon did create a new "general viewer" forum
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:29]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Whether or not we should change the default for going beta depends on what feedback we want from users. If someone comes to IRC telling they crashed, we could easily ask them for the last some lines from the console window if we keep the default to "true".
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|I ran into some conflict internally with wording
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|(Then again, most of that should also be available in the log file.)
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|thats true, if people know how to copy & paste
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|so tha tis delayed
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|political conflict?
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:30]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|and believe it or not there some...
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:31]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|my opinion is enable the menus by default or beta viewers, but hide the consoles. People get confused by 'em
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:31]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Well, on windows the console being started is a Windows CMD window, isn't it? Copy-Paste there /is/ strange, so I don't blame the users ...
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:31]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Agrees with McCabe
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:32]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|yeah, it is. You highlight and press ENTER, not very intuitive...
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:32]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|that is easy enough to change I had it that way for my testing
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:32]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|so. maby better to have easy way for users to access the log file directory. and hide the console
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:32]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|sounds good
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:33]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|console off by default then
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:33]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|?
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:33]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|yeah
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:33]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|done for next exp.
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:33]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|"easy way" might short-term only be some good documentation on where to find the logfile, though. (We can adapt that from the SL wiki.)
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|can you maby add in menu some option "open log file directory ?"
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|hm
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|add an option to the Help menu?
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|we can do that
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|That would be great
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|thats maby good place for it
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|RiRa, shouldn't be too hard, but is it of much use? Log file is most interesting after crashes ... so exactly when you can't use the viewer to access it.
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:34]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Or even a link to copy the log file to the clipboard, or just open it in notepad
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:35]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Make it easy for people to send it in
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:35]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|hmm... right
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:35]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|also if someine runs a week and then opens it will it be bufferd correctly
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:35]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|ok. so thats useless to.
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:36]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|Is there a way in hg to set the fuzz level for merges?
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:37]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|you can specify the merge tool
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:37]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|my reject file for llviewernetwork.cpp was longer thatn the program
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:37]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|yeah, plus verbose logging would prolly overload the windows clipboard, heh
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:37]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|yikes
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:38]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|so you could specify a tool that thakes such a fuzz level
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:38]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|but most were easily colved
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:38]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|solved
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:39]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|hg transplant and then select a better merge tool
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:39]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|what merge tool are you using right nw?
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:39]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|I've found p4merge to be pretty good on win
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:40]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|idk what ever is in default
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:41]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|it kicks out the .rej and then it is manual from there
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:41]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|ah, that's no merge tool, then
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:41]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|merge tool kicks in for stuff that mercurial's internal merger can't handle itself
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:42]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|how can i change thaqt
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:42]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|hg help merge
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:42]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|6-8 hours work for one file is the pits
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:42]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|hg help merge-tools
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:42]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|ty
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:43]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|:)
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:43]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|also, http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MergeProgram
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:45]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Is there more to be discussed about going beta?
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:45]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|Let people know that kokua is still alive...
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:46]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Decision was to go for it, correct? (Was there a decision?)
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:47]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|go for it
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:47]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|seconded
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:47]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|not voting
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:47]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|too close to it of late
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:48]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|thinks the choice along made :)
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:48]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|yup
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:48]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Well, there don't seem to be any nay-votes, anyway
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:48]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|:-)
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:48]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Alright, let's get to the next topic on the Agenda:
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:49]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|"Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion "
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:49]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|'certification' here means inclusion into the TPV directory, I guess?
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:49]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|yes
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:50]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Right because right now it's just Imprudence on the official list yah
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:51]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Can't hurt to get included there, I guess. Though we should re-read the conditions and think about whether we can and want to meet them.
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:51]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|As I recall, in order to get on the list someone has to give their name, address, and financial records (credit card etc) to LL for that to go ahead so they can hold someone acountable (Presumably) if all hell breaks loose
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:51]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|I believe Jacek is the person of record for Imprudence with LL
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:51]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|so if hell breaks lose they can swipe damages from the cc? :)
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|But there is no such record or person for Kokua as of yet
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|I could do that (LL has my CC info anyway, cause back when I joined, that was needed)
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|I think so they can sue you, likely in arbitration
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|There may or may not be a signing away of one's soul
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|I'm neutral on certification, thuogh I think it would be a good thing
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:52]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|however, some stuff coming out of ll makes me puzzled, like the havok library licensing stuff
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:53]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|i dont know what the bad sides could be with certification. good side is that more users can use it
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:53]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|LL has my info too but I would want to read the doc before signing it, I wouldn't want to be help responsible for what some random person does with the viewer
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:54]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|can an non profit corp apply
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:54]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|I would say the next step should be to find out what is entailed, how does it restrict us, how does it make us liable, etc etc
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:54]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|then you will take that on?
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:54]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|I find the whole notion of liability in an open-source project bonkers.
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:54]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|indeed
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[13:55]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|but I get why they'd want it
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:55]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|I don't see how any private individual would be prepared to take on any liability whatsoever, but that's just my opinion
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:55]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|A lot of liability contracts, and TOS are actually not legally defensible
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|very true
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|but you can only win that with big bucks
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|There's a law in the US, I forget it's name off hand, but it states that contracts that benefit only one party to the exclusion of the other party are invalid
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Companies try to get around that via Arbitration
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|yes, unofrtunately I think richardus is right, even if you're in the right you still have to find a lawyer to defend you
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Yup
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:56]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Gotta kill someone to get a public defender
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|but as you say, it depends on the exact wording of any agreement
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|with all the patent trolls.....
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|Imprudence has been on the list since inception. Have there been problems?
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|nope.
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|None I'd know of.
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[13:57]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|<looks up for falling rocks">
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[13:58]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Would be interesting to know what happend to the person that was responible to LL for Emerald
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:58]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|got perma-banned?
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[13:58]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|I think the worst offender was banded
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:58]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|there's very little point doing anything else, imho,. it's both bad publicity and you lose money
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[13:59]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|(Or it probably wouldn't be on the list anymore. Taking a viewer from the list, is the first measure available to LL.
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[13:59]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|yes
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[14:00]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|Then lets continue this in sunday's meetup
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:00]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|ok
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[14:00]
| colspan="2" class="action"|McCabe Maxsted nods. K
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:00]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|So we're concluding the meetup for today?
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:01]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|who's in charge around here? :)
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[14:01]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Dog
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:01]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|everyone and no one
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:01]
| colspan="2" class="action"|Justin Clark-Casey observes it is the top of the hour
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| colspan="2" class="action"|McCabe Maxsted grins
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| colspan="2" class="action"|Justin Clark-Casey prays to Dog
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|McCabe Maxsted:
| class="message"|may the dog be with you?
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|I wonder if there is a dog?
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|what is dog was one of us?
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|urf, if
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|Hello, this is Dog
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|(I had to)
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[14:02]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|I'm dognostic
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:03]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|Dog is not a noun. She's a verb.
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[14:03]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|lol
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:04]
| class="name"|Justin Clark-Casey:
| class="message"|ok, sounds like that's it. See you guys around
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:04]
| class="name"|Boroondas Gupte:
| class="message"|tc
|- class="person1"
| class="time"|[14:04]
| colspan="2" class="action"|Justin Clark-Casey waves
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[14:04]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|tc JCC
|- class="person5"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| class="name"|Richardus Raymaker:
| class="message"|heading out to. bye bye
|- class="person0"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| colspan="2" class="action"|Boroondas Gupte copy-pastes the transcript
|- class="person6"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| class="name"|ZATZAi Asturias:
| class="message"|ltr all
|- class="person3"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| class="name"|Thoria Millgrove:
| class="message"|tc
|- class="person2"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| colspan="2" class="action"|McCabe Maxsted waves. Take care :)
|- class="person4"
| class="time"|[14:05]
| class="name"|Nicky Perian:
| class="message"|later all
|}

Kokua:Release Notes/3.3.1 Alpha

2012-05-13T21:10:02Z

Developer Notes:

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	=== Developer Notes ===		=== Developer Notes ===
-	~~Unless there~~ a ~~major problem this~~ is ~~likely the last experimental for windows~~	+	The linux 32 bit build should have equal features as the linux 64 bit build minus streaming audio.
-	using ~~viewer-development code base~~.	+	On my system running the 32 bit build on a 64 bit distribution there is no streaming audio
		+	using Kokua, Second Life or Firestrom viewers. If logged to an Opensim grid all three linux 32 bit viewers
		+	report a media plugin failure for the gstreamer010 plugin.

-	~~Linux builds will~~ be ~~in focus now~~.	+	The Windows viewer has no streaming audio either.
		+
		+	Builds are at the point where bug reports can be filed to our redmine issue tracking system.

-		+	Please report issues to [http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/wiki/Kokua:Experimental Redmine Issue Tracking].
-	Please report issues to [http://~~bitbucket~~.org/~~NickyP~~/~~kokua/issues Bitbucket~~].	+

	=== Available Downloads ===		=== Available Downloads ===

Kokua:Release Notes/3.3.1 Alpha

2012-05-13T15:42:20Z

Release Highlights:

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	=== Release Highlights ===		=== Release Highlights ===
		+	* Updated May 13, 2010 Windows 32 bit Fix missing feature table text files missing from install.
		+	* Updated May 13, 2010 Linux 32 bit
	* Updated May 10. 2010 Linux 64 bit Ctrl-a bug fix.		* Updated May 10. 2010 Linux 64 bit Ctrl-a bug fix.
-	* Updated May 10, 2010 Windows 32 bit. Corrected missing openal32.dll.
-	* Updated May 9, 2012 Linux 64 bit download.
-	* This should correct (although untested) the startup issue on non-Debian based distributions of libpcre.so.3 not being found.
-	* This linux 64 build is a complete version with webkit and gstreamer linked in.
-	* Rolled back to last version. Updated May 9, 2012 Windows 32 bit download. No real changes just a build after making linux 64 work.
-	* Added April 25, 2012 a Linux 32 bit download at hash b7fbcdae906f.
-	~~* ******************************************************************~~
-	* Updated April 19, 2012 to hash 8bba3b3c9084.
-	* Corrected a missing file "ssleay32.dll" when installing fresh/clean.
-	* Linked with Large Address Aware. Allows older windows system to use more than 2 Gigabytes
-	* Fix for Opensim World Map assert when mouse click enter.
-	~~* ****************** Should retain from below*********~~
-	* Updated April 17, 2012 to hash 8c3c0662521b
-	* A first attempt to add sound and media.
-	* Tests indicate noise elements work.
-	* Tests indicate that streaming audio does NOT work.
-	* Test indicate that Vivox voice connects but, its use as NOT been tested.
-	* Custom settings file for kokua experimetal viewer when using as an installed viewer
-	* --settings settings_viewer_kokua_experimental.xml
-	* Added defaults Grid Selector, Paste as Link into folders, Use Debug Login, Use Debug Menus
-	* Functionality Changes: addition of opensource mesh upload
-	* Color and branding are kokua

	=== Developer Notes ===		=== Developer Notes ===
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	=== Available Downloads ===		=== Available Downloads ===

-	[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua_Experimental-3-3-1-~~a9aff353c68c_Viewer_Setup~~.exe Windows 32 bit]	+	[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua_Experimental-3-3-1-0cf439b65efc_Viewer_Setup.exe Windows 32 bit]
-	[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua-3.3.1-~~b7fbcdae906f~~-Experimental-Linux32.tar.bz2 Linux 32 bit]	+	[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua-3.3.1-4fe906dc5037-Experimental-Linux32.tar.bz2 Linux 32 bit]
	[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua-3.3.1-22581-97ca4c6e0e4fExperimental-Linux64.tar.bz2 Linux 64 bit]		[https://bitbucket.org/NickyP/kokua/downloads/Kokua-3.3.1-22581-97ca4c6e0e4fExperimental-Linux64.tar.bz2 Linux 64 bit]

Kokua-dev inworld meetup agenda

2012-05-13T10:30:29Z

added new dates

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	Rolling agenda for the [[ImpDev Meetups\|kokua-dev meetups]]. Add agenda items (and your name) to the list if you want to discuss them at the next meetup.		Rolling agenda for the [[ImpDev Meetups\|kokua-dev meetups]]. Add agenda items (and your name) to the list if you want to discuss them at the next meetup.

-	==== Wednesday, May 02, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====	+	==== Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====
		+	* Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion
		+	* Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion
	* ''(Add your agenda item here)''		* ''(Add your agenda item here)''
-
-	~~==== Wednesday, May 09, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====~~
-	* ''(Add your agenda item here)''
-
-	~~==== Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====~~
-	* ''Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion''
-	* ''Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion''

	==== Sunday, May 20, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====		==== Sunday, May 20, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====
	Monthly Team Purple Meetup (kokua-dev '''and''' ImpDev)		Monthly Team Purple Meetup (kokua-dev '''and''' ImpDev)
-	* ''Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion''	+	* Move the new Kokua to Beta -- Open discussion
-	* ''Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion''	+	* Apply Kokua Viewer for SL Third Party Viewer certification -- Open discussion
-	* ''Decision for the above items. Can be Yes No or Postpone.''	+	* Decision for the above items. Can be Yes No or Postpone.
		+	* ''(Add your agenda item here)''
	[[Category:ImpDev_Meetups]]		[[Category:ImpDev_Meetups]]
		+
		+	==== Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====
		+	* ''(Add your agenda item here)''
		+
		+	==== Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 20:00 UTC ====
		+	* ''(Add your agenda item here)''